AI’s Biggest Problem? Your Data. (w/ Return On Security's Mike Privette & Matt Lock)

AI is moving faster than any technology we’ve seen—but security isn’t keeping up. In this conversation, Mike Privette (Return on Security) and Matt Lock unpack the reality of AI adoption, including the AI paradox: the more data you give AI, the more powerful it becomes—and the more risk you introduce. From autonomous agents and expanding blast radius to the shift toward AI vs. AI security, this discussion explores why AI isn’t just creating new challenges—it’s exposing long-standing problems in data security, identity, and governance. If AI is everywhere, everything all at once, the real question is: are organizations actually prepared for what comes next? 00:00 — AI Is Everywhere, All At Once 00:26 — Where Companies Really Are with AI 03:09 — The AI Paradox: Value vs Risk 04:31 — AI as an “Unexpected Pen Test” 06:26 — Agents, Autonomy, and Loss of Control 10:39 — Why Governance Can’t Keep Up 17:44 — Attackers Have AI Too (Robots vs Robots) 38:16 — The Real Focus: Data, Identity, and AI for Security