It's an inventor's time: what AI native engineering looks like with Andrew Lau, CEO of Jellyfish

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6,810 views April 30, 2026

Everyone says they want to be AI native. Far fewer organizations actually know what that means or how to get there. Andrew Lau, CEO at Jellyfish, works with engineering teams every day who are trying to close that gap. In this episode, he and host Emma Webb dig into what truly AI native engineering orgs are doing differently. They get into why legacy codebases and established customer bases create a transformation challenge that fresh-start companies simply don't face. They also cover the token budget problem hitting finance teams everywhere, what the adoption, productivity, outcomes framework looks like in practice, and why becoming AI native forces teams to rethink how product and engineering work together. Andrew's take: this is an inventor's time. A maker's time. There's never been a better moment to get your hands back in the work. If you lead an engineering org trying to figure out what AI native really means for your team, this one's for you. Have someone you want us to interview or a topic you want us to cover? Let us know on X or LinkedIn.

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