Are Software Engineers the New Data Engineers? w/ Tim Delisle & Chris Crane (514)

In this conversation, I sit down with Tim Delisle and Chris Crane, co-founders of 514, to discuss bridging the gap between software development and data engineering. We cover their experience leading global data engineering at Nike and why software teams are increasingly taking ownership of heavy analytical workloads. We also dive into how they are building the Moose Stack to give developers a local-first, code-first analytics experience. Finally, we explore how AI co-pilots are acting like an "army of interns" to fundamentally change how we write code , and why the "personal data lake" might be the future of privacy and local compute. Check out 514 & The Moose Stack: https://www.fiveonefour.com/ Key timestamps: 00:00 - Introductions & the story behind the name "514" 03:03 - The highest-grossing Nike store in the world 04:16 - How a small startup gets acquired by Nike 07:56 - The Nike Black Friday code freeze that broke recommendations and inspired 514 10:47 - What is 514 and the open-source Moose Stack? 13:26 - Why software engineers are taking over data engineering workloads 15:27 - The role of AI and LLMs in generating complex SQL queries 20:34 - Why shoehorning analytics into Postgres eventually breaks 27:31 - How the founders are using AI tools like Claude Code and Codex daily 33:57 - Users downloading marketing guides just to feed them to AI agents 37:46 - The chaos and "Type 2 fun" of building dev tools during the AI boom 41:30 - Managing AI agents like an "army of interns" 48:28 - The future of privacy: Personal Data Lakes and running DuckDB locally 54:09 - What's next for 514, AI dev environments, and wrap-up