The Voices That Stay With You: Fraud, Emotion & AI in 2025

Our newest podcast episode just dropped — and it’s one you need to hear if you're concerned about the rise of deepfake scam calls. “The Voices That Stay With You: Fraud, Emotion & AI in 2025” is now live, featuring an unfiltered, future-looking conversation between Mike Pappas, CEO & Co-Founder of Modulate, and Jane Frankland, acclaimed Cybersecurity Author, Speaker, and CEO of KnewStart. We're chatting: 🔊 Why modern fraud doesn’t sound like fraud anymore 🎭 How deepfake voices are quietly reshaping trust across industries 💬 The emotional toll today’s threat landscape puts on frontline teams 👂 What leaders must do in 2025 to truly “listen differently”